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Originally Posted by volkman10 Maruti Suzuki did consider the 3 door Jimny, but customer survey indicated a resounding NO.
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Originally Posted by Jaggu The day they announced 5 door, I felt they are aiming for volumes, where it makes sense for the business. Is it ok to use a Offroad legend pedigree and image to gather more sales number or they should focus on hard core enthusiast is a debatable topic (again positioning and pricing). |
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Originally Posted by PrideRed The other reason is, a 3 door Jimny except for compact dimensions which will help in offroading, has no USP over Thar. The 5 door Jimny has a useable boot, better rear seats than That, which may pull some hatchback and other sub 4M SUV buyers. |
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Originally Posted by Vikram Arya I just wish folk don't start trashing our river beds and other natural/green spaces (typically we Indians have scant regard for our public spaces) once these SUVs are out in number. Future owners, also need to be careful not to engage 4H/L on paved surfaces that will result in transmission binding and thus result in costly repairs of the transfer case. I hope Suzuki salespeople have been trained to highlight those aspects while providing information to prospective customers. |
@volkman10 - I wonder who they surveyed and what the sample pool of people was. How many people did they survey and what was their profile.
@jaggu - MSIL are here to sell what they can and to make profits. Hence for a market like India it made better sense to make and sell the 5 door. Remember the Swift Hatchback which they tacked a boot on to, to create Swift Dzire. In the case of the Jimny they will certainly tout the off-road go-anywhere pedigree but the people who buy it are normal people who have the money and the requirement for a ‘tough’ vehicle.
Numerous examples of this kind of marketing abound, but the real world usage patterns are totally different;
1. Land Rover Defender - can go anywhere, over anything, Overlanding is what it is built for - but most owners drive it to the Mall or School. (I hesitate to say Soccer Mom because it is an American coinage though we have our ‘version’ here.
2. Breitling Watches - Instruments for Professionals - can dive to the ocean bottom or go into space. Most owners barely wet their Breitlings in the shower.
3. Jeep Wrangler - Jeep Lifestyle, rock crawling in Moab or Desert drifting in the Mojave. Most owners buy the Unlimited and use it as a people and luggage hauler.
4. MG Motors - They are fully Chinese, and make some over-the-top-designed, bling-waggon type vehicles. But they scream from the roof-tops about their ‘British’ pedigree and have even coopted Benedict Cumberbatch as their Brand Ambassador. They even have a badge saying ‘Brit’ on the fenders of some of their vehicles.
@PrideRed - The Jimny and the Thar are absolutely totally different. Like chalk and cheese. Can’t really compare them. Even when speaking of off-road, the Jimny will be able to go where the Thar cannot. And the Thar makes for a much better long distance Grand Tourer. Best to own both, if one has the money. Because both are individually brilliant and serve totally different applications.
@VikramArya - you took the words literally from my mouth. In our country the laws of trespass are lax. There is little or no enforcement of any restrictions in prohibited areas. What little engorcement is there can be circumvented by bribery and or ‘rank-pulling’. I have seen idiot motorists stopped right in the middle of wildlife sanctuaries and making merry and eating and all. There is a recent public article which states that Ladakh will allow tourists into ‘sensitive and/ or prohibited areas’. And this comes just after the controversy about the Jimny advert showing it running.on a river bed. There are no ‘regulated green lanes’ or ‘off road trails’ or ‘official organised camping spots’. The litter and garbage management facilities are non-existent. With the ‘democratisation of off-roading’ by way of all these new age vehicles, an ever-increasing population, and the ever-increasing purchasing-power, marked lack of proper education in real-terms, and the mania caused by social-media, we will soon literally be saddled with millions of unqualified, uncaring, irresponsible, fame-seeking “four wheel-drive off-road enthusiasts” crawling about, getting stuck, disrupting sensitive eco-systems and permanently ruining the countryside.